Had a very disappointing 3d hunt at Dos Plumas in Trent TX. The owner Allen Williams, was a total jerk, stuck us with a dead pig his dogs found out in the brush. We booked 3d and 4n and at the end of the 3rd day he told us to pack up and leave cause he booked someone else. When I objected he said "That's just the way it is". Another party was assessed a $500.00 fee when his arrow passed through a sheep and took out another, didn't go over well. One guy on our bunk was so drunk that night he pi$$ed in the middle of the floor, hell of a mess. We got the feeling that if you took a shot (hit or miss) that counted as a kill they REALLY hasseled us about this! They assesed a $20.00 fee per active tit on any sows taken which when they're in tall grass or jump up you cant tell! Anything to screw you out of a few more dollars. We felt really uncomfortable here! Allen Williams would engraciate and patronize you one minute as a long lost "Buddy?" Then shaft and pimp you over the next!!!! And the worst part is..... THERT WERN'T VERY MANY HOGS OVER 50-60 #!!! LOTS OF PIGLETS! There were 9 people among 3 parties all left pi$$ed off with this guy! We definately won't go back and if you're smart steer clear of Dos Plumas!
Sounds like a sham for sure. I hate to hear that for anybody. I think you have found the right place here to get some better leads to great hunts. One thing about it - he won't be in business long treating his customers that way.
One thing about it - he won't be in business long treating his customers that way.
I heard that they were moving to a different ranch and opening up another deer and exotic only hunting ranch in either Kansas or Nebraska, can't remember which. I don't know what's driving his business if he treats all of his customers that way unless it's just good advertising and marketing.
There's another guy that's been around for a long time that runs Hog Hunting - Free Hog Hunting, which is their newest website, that has been sued and has a million complaints on the net and he's still hanging around selling lots of hunts because he advertises everywhere, so he gets a lot of unsuspecting clients. He also regularly changes his website address to disguise his business as a different one.
The best advice is to beware and ask for referrals before you book a hunt someplace and send them your money.
I just sumbled upon this site and couldn't resist posting a response to Manosteel. I hunted Dos Plumas in March of 2011...just like he did, and our group of 6 hunters killed 16 hogs. Most of them were in the 100-150lb range, one was about 250, and the biggest was over 300. Guess what?...all of us walked and stalked alone and had a great hunt. Hogs aren't like hunting deer. If you push them, you will never see them. They're smart, have good eyesight, good hearing and a great sense of smell. You have to hunt them slow and deliberate. As for shooting a wet sow...that rule applies every place I've hunted. If you can't tell the difference (tall grass or not), what are you doing hunting. As for the guy that shot a ram and hit the one behind it...Allen was right for charging him the $500 fine. All the things you talk about and complain about, are spelled out in black and white, and again, reinforced by Allen before you take to the field. In reference to the number of hogs on the property...we saw a ton of all sizes and we left a lot of pigs out there for you to shoot only a couple weeks later. Allen and Butch run a top-notch operation, were very respectful and helpful, and we booked a hunt for March of 2012 before we even left to come home. I'm not sure what you expected, but you might want to try another place and see if they run things any different. My guess is...you won't be happy, regardless of where you hunt. We hunted a ranch in OK for years and the rules were identical. I'm just curious...how would you run a hunting operation if it was up to you?
That's why I always recommend people to look for referrals and recommendations. The only way you can get pertinent information is to see what the experiences were for people who have already been there.
Manosteel sorry to hear about your bad hunt. I too have personally been on the ranch and know first hand how much of a jerk Allen is.
Il Bux I have no doubt that 6 of you killed 16 hogs. Maybe even a few of decent size. However, I would highly highly doubt that you killed anything over 250 lbs. I have hunted hogs all over the state of texas and have only seen a handful that could make that kind of weight; much less at dos plumas. As for the difference between deer and hog hunting you are absolutely right, hogs aren't like hunting deer. But, you are completely turned around. Deer are the harder animal to hunt. They are the elite when it comes to evading hunters. Their eyesight, hearing, and smell far exceed that of a hog. I have bow hunted hogs several times wearing nothing more than blue jeans and a t-shirt and not once did a hog see me. They have terrible eyesight. If you push them you will never see them?! What a load of #*^!. How far can you push them at dos plumas? If you didn't notice, it's only 700 acres and it's high fenced! And since they have relocated it's only 300 acres with hog proof fence.
Never the less you are dealing with a lying, crooked, asshole. If he was such a nice guy as you say Il Bux, then why can't he keep the same guide for an extended period of time? You are full of #*^! and have no idea about any kind of hunting if you were turned on by such a crappy operation.
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